One time this friend of mine got in trouble...he was going to get a whipping with a paddle...and the teacher said, 'does anybody want to take his place?'...I stood up for him.

Manual Heart is Chairman of the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe. He lives in Towaoc, Colorado. Christen Heart is the 2018 Junior Miss Ute Mountain. They recorded their conversation in June, 2018.